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You are here: Home / Beer News / Q&A: Scot Blair—Part 1

Q&A: Scot Blair—Part 1

February 25, 2016 By Brandon Hernández

headshot for bioOwner; Monkey Paw Pub & Brewing, South Park Brewing Company & Hamilton’s Tavern

Big Beer conglomerate AB-InBev’s 10 Barrel Brewpub project seemed to come out of nowhere. Slated for entry into downtown San Diego’s East Village, it’s actually the latest in an ongoing string of strategically placed brewpubs AB-InBev is installing in the country’s foremost craft-beer communities under the name of the Bend, Oregon-based former craft-brewery it bought out in 2014. The arrival of this faux-craft, brewery-equipped restaurant has sparked the ire of the San Diego Brewers Guild. Last week, members of the local brewing industry and fans of independent local breweries rallied at a meeting of the Downtown Community Planning Council where, despite concern from San Diego businesses and citizens, the neighborhood use permit was approved. A public protest period is coming up, but the probability of the project being denied at any point isn’t likely. Seeking the voice of someone who, first off, will be the closest legitimate craft-beer competition for the 10 Barrel pub and, secondly, isn’t the least bit afraid to speak his mind, we sat down with Scot Blair, the owner of the East Village’s Monkey Paw Pub & Brewery (as well as nearby South Park Brewing Company and Hamilton’s Tavern). He responded with equal parts honesty and verbosity. The following is part one of a two-part question-and-answer exchange.

Why do you think AB-InBev and Big Beer in general would want to come into a community esteemed for its local beer, especially using an acquired brand from Oregon?
Scot Blair: It’s simple, really. They are expanding their footprint by any means necessary—assimilate and destroy.

With the Guild, CCBA and BA vehemently opposed to the 10 Barrel Project, how can it be viewed as a positive development by anyone?
SB: Obfuscation. Not only from Big Beer, but from our glorified real-estate moguls. Think of the people behind this. First you have Makers Quarter with developers Lankford & Associates and Hensel Phelps. Next you have HP Investors LLC and, mind you, they both partner together for a group they call L2HP. These are the puppet-masters. Now look at “Makers Quarter.” This is a tag-phrase they created when the only “maker” that was even doing anything in the area was Monkey Paw. If you listen well, their shills will tell you that this is going to bring millennial tech and residential to the East Village, and it will be a huge boon companion for growth in the community, and how wonderful all of this is for San Diego’s booming “craft” beer scene. This is absolute bull. These snakes, I’m sure, they could also tell us how SDG&E raising rates as the “only game in town” after year-in and year-out record profits is “great for the community,” too! The only entity this does any good for is them by way of giant cash windfalls directly benefiting their greed and, to be frank, it’s sickening to me and really shows what they are made of by way of caring about the community. They are simply doing everything and anything they can to lease property at all cost while trying to make up insane angles to convince unwitting consumers that this is such a good thing. It’s no different than Big Pharma or Wall Street, in my opinion.
— Editor’s note: When reached for comment, Michael Burton, the commercial broker for the bindery building and its property owner, told us that “the property was publicly marketed, and 10 Barrel was the only brewery to show interest in the location.”

How do you feel the arrival of the 10 Barrel project will impact other local brewing businesses such as your own, Half Door Brewing Company and Mission Brewery?
SB: I can definitely find a silver-lining and make lemonade as I’ve done my whole career, but in reality, brewpubs like Monkey Paw and Half Door will have to work even harder with far less with which to fight that uphill battle on quality. So obviously and most certainly it will have an impact. You have to understand the common consumer has been, and continues to be, so misguided. The real fans and independent thinkers of great beer are still a strong minority. The vast majority of beer-drinkers are simply enamored with marketing, hype and all things with a sheen that glimmer. To think that, in this day and age, making fantastic, award-winning beer is not enough, is sad. Great beer still falls deaf to the ears of too many of our San Diego locals who aren’t getting the right message from these deep-pocketed snake-oil salesmen standing at their pulpits hyping to fleece.

Can beers brewed at the 10 Barrel project be regarded as “local”?
SB: They are local as much as Citgo gas-stations are local. This is a classic wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing scenario. Of course it’s not local! Sure, it will create some local jobs, but the money spent by the people will go right into the hands of AB-InBev. People can play technicalities, but in the end, what folks should be supporting is small, independently owned mom-and-pop establishments. This is the moral ethos that people think about when they try to spend local, not billion-dollar companies, large restaurant groups, big real-estate conglomerates. C’mon…really?! There is no integrity in them and, at its core, it personifies despicable greed.

What can be done now, and by whom?
SB: First off, it starts with you and other people like you and all of us, really. We have a voice in our spending habits. Let’s use it! I have never had a problem calling out bullshit or speaking out against what I feel is injustice. I get that folks may not like the obtuse nature of my opinion and that’s okay, because I’m trying to prevent people from drowning and I’m trying to continue the mission. We need to continue to shove our way to the front and pull the curtain back on these mistruths, call out these scumbag real-estate developers who would have you believe that the only option for them was to sign AB-InBev to this deal. What a crock of shit that is! They care about the community? The industry? Yeah, so much they are bringing in our biggest threat without exhausting efforts elsewhere. Obviously, telling someone they can’t open a business isn’t the answer. It’s un-American, even if the rich get richer and the small businesses go under. The local beer community should be in outrage and should be vocal, imploring folks to simply not go (to the 10 Barrel brewpub). Instead, dump twice as much support into these very small, independent places because if you are about “local” and you are about “indie” and you are about “community,” then it’s your obligation to HELP SMALL BUSINESS SURVIVE! People need to walk the walk when it comes to this specific dilemma. I think we have a lot more hypocrites than we do pioneers and it shouldn’t be that way in this day and age.

This is only the start of some eye-opening and thought-provoking back-and-forth. Check back to our website for the second-half of our Q&A with Scot Blair on Tuesday, March 1.

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  1. Jennifer Silva Redmond says

    March 2, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    Ii will never buy beer from these pseudo local beer crafters. Period. Keep up the great work at your real local brewpubs abd we’ll keep drinking them. Cosmo rocks, btw.

    • Jennifer Silva Redmond says

      March 2, 2016 at 1:54 pm

      Oh and thanks for publishing this, West Coaster. Well done!

  2. Joe Tucker says

    March 1, 2016 at 10:43 am

    Thanks West Coaster and Scot Blair for the interview. This is an important discussion.

  3. Joe Tucker says

    March 1, 2016 at 9:58 am

    The very great news that I’m seeing is that *most* of our top brewers are RateBeer don’t sell out. And many new great brewers will make great beer a long time before they become interesting to the Borg.

    So as a brewer or a retailer, you still have real choices. And people who love beer will respond to good curation.

    Is craft beer’s heyday over? Yes! And for me, there’s a little bit of good riddance in there. We have better beer now, it’s going to be increasingly tough for standout beer to scale up. But it’s going to be a little easier for a place to start up and for the owners to make a living.

  4. Claudia Faulk says

    February 26, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    Thanks Scot for calling it as you see it. I am betting they will be dressing this place up in the sheep clothing of a craft beer location. Would be nice if they would proudly hang a sign that says corporate beer.
    Cheers!
    Claudia

  5. Beau Harrison says

    February 26, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    Scott, I love you brother, I love your breweries and your bars, and I don’t like psuedo craft beer made by AB. But developers develop. I am sure the developers could have gotten someone else to lease the space, but I am also sure that, all things being considered, the deal with 10 barrel was the best deal for them. I wouldn’t expect anyone to strike a deal that is less than the best. Further, I can think of a lot less savory businesses that could go into East Village.
    I drink great local beer, because it’s great, not because it’s local. I do business with great small businesses, because they are great, not because they are small. And I go to your places, because I enjoy them, not because they are “indie”.
    Small, local, indie bars and breweries shouldn’t expect folks to choose them over bars and beers they enjoy more, even if the ones they like are big and corporate, should they?
    AB, when buying a brewery or opening a brewpub, is not your enemy. If anything they are just an indirect competitor. They only become the enemy when they team up with politicians to limit choice. There is no better environment in which to nurture craft brewing than cold hard capitalism, and nothing more toxic than crony- capitalism.
    You don’t need to shout and call names in the face of this indirect competition. Save your outrage for the distribution system and other regulations rigged by the cronies. For the psuedo-craft AB, and/or SAB brewpubs and breweries, educate your customers as to why you’re different and give them great beer with a great experience. You’re one of the best I’ve ever seen at this. So, just keep doing your thing.

    • sblair says

      February 29, 2016 at 11:36 am

      Hi Beau,

      The beauty of this country is that people have the right of differing opinions and some of what you say I share those same sentiments such as ” great local beer, because it’s great, not because it’s local. I do business with great small businesses, because they are great, not because they are small” I agree with this 100% because i believe this is the most important thing is how folks feel when they are somewhere.

      However, we strongly differ on AB not being an enemy to microbreweries. They are. That point is non debate point where I sit. They are the absolute enemy to the health of small beer.

      Yes developer have the right to develop. They also have the right to “tear down paradise and put up a parking lot” but those rights don’t always make it OK and especially when the developers talk sideways. At least if you are going to give fuck all about the community have the stones to say it and not feign this altrusitic care of a community that you are directly negatively impacting. Seems straightforward to me.

      I also do think shouting and calling names is exactly what I need to do. I need to shout louder and be purposefully direct so that this type of information is heard and this type of communication can happen and that small beer can have a voice. To many of our leaders are afraid to step up, cause a stink and are content sitting on the sideline but being outraged behind closed doors or to afraid of the PC police coming down on them. I simply dont care about that or the trial by twitter. Im calling this JUST LIKE I SEE IT.

      When you talk about limiting choice it’s important to note this IS what is happening indirectly and the beginning of what they are doing with buying up these businesses such as 10 barrel and flooding the box stores (which i am not part of mind you) with their brands via THEIR distribution channels and pushing smaller breweries (Green Flash, Alpine, Hess, Modern Times, AleSmith ETC) further out. So this is exactly what we are talking about and what this big beer offensive is and underway.

      Again you are correct that apathetic consumerism is a right but my belief (naive as it may be) is that apathetic consumerism is a result from being “in the dark” and that a percentage of the consumers WOULD make different decisions if presented more pertinent data. So having this discussion hopefully touches a percentage (small or large) and allow folks to maybe make different choices or at least educated choice.

      Sometimes you lose some to win some but this discussion certainly needs to happen because there are definitely blurry data and information flooding the airwaves.

      In the end, i want to reiterate that you and I should support “great local beer, because it’s great, not because it’s local. I do business with great small businesses, because they are great, not because they are small” but in the same vein we should be a little more discerning with our spending IF our goal is we to support a smaller local community ethos.

      Im not really monitoring this but appreciate your thoughts and agree with more than I disagree with.

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